EIT FE PE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL CIVIL EXAMS

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CAREER PROBLEMS ?

career problems ?

problems with your academic background

problems with studying for the exams

problems with passing the exams

Problems with career aspects

problems with exam rules

PROBLEMS WITH CAREER ASPECTS

You must pass the EIT or PE exam or you will lose your job

You were hired contingent on passing the EIT or PE exam by a certain date and you did not pass

Your colleagues have become licensed, and they are surpassing you

You trained new engineers and they passed the exams, now they are your supervisors

You work for a DOT, and to maintain your position it is mandated that you become a PE

You are a company principal and by state law you must be a PE

You own your company and to bid on government projects you must be a PE

You are passed over for promotions because of lack of the license

You dont have your EIT and you are only assigned CAD work with low pay

The VP of your company called for a meeting and announced that all engineers must become licensed by a certain date or look for alternatives

You apply for jobs but you are always asked if you have passed the EIT exam

When you send out resumes you get no responses

You have friends who are PE's who are making six-figure salaries

You want to start your own consulting firm but you dont have your PE license

Your company wants to make you a supervisor but they require you to be a PE

You work overseas for a US engineering firm which has PE positions with higher salaries but you dont qualify

Your company keeps nagging you to get your license

Your peers who are licensed keep encouraging you to take the exams

You have missed out on $ 20,000 annually for the last ten years due to lack of the license

You can get a raise doing the same job if you pass the exam

Your company wants to charge higher billable hours for your work but you are not licensed

You qualify for an advertised position with a higher salary but it requires the PE

CASE STUDIES

I have a position where I started out as a Cad Designer for the Electrical Department. As time went by , I start get more involved in Engineering stuffs (Ex: Circuiting, Sizing of Power and Lighting and reading the code books and etc..) I am trying to apply to take the FE exam and I have 6 years of experience working with Engineering Firms.

Great firm, full service A/E, looking to hire a Mechanical Engineering Discipline Leader (PE required), An electrical studio engineer (PE required), and electrical engineer (PE required), an electrical designer/drafter.

My ex-boss kindly laid me off to study for the fall exam which I failed. I have an offer with an upstart firm that depends on me getting my PE. The new company also wants a PLS. Things might work out well for me.

I am in a field that requires my PE. I am doing Civil site design (Paving, roads, grading, drainage, sanitary, etc..) mostly for housing developments and other large projects. My boss has been on me about passing it and bugging me about making sure I study, but he wont pay for the test, or study materials, and wants me to use a vacation day to take it. I am not willing to do that so I will just work 10 hours a day now through thursday to get my 40 in so I dont have to take a vacation day.

I can't believe it! My boss paid for all the study materials for both the EIT and PE, the exam costs, refresher course and put the exam time on overhead. He also has been pumping me up about a nice raise once I pass! I am not bragging just humbled by my employers generosity after reading this thread. I only wish you all could have the same positive experiences in your current job that I have with my employer. Wish you all the best on the test!

PROBLEMS WITH YOUR ACADEMIC BACKGROUND

You have graduated many years ago

You do not remember the material

You did not learn the material very well in school

You did not take all the course-subjects in school

You are eligible to take the exam, but you did not attend engineering school

PROBLEMS WITH STUDYING FOR THE EXAMS

You find it difficult to study by yourself

You find it hard to study out of textbooks and study-guides

You have attended refreshers at the local university, but you only received lectures

You have tried to study with CD's, Dvd, or video-tape but you find that they skip most material

You have tried to attend a local refresher but you spend most of the time commuting to the class

You find it difficult to find the time to study

You find it difficult to concentrate on the material

You find yourself too distracted with other things

When you study, you get too immersed in the details

When you get stuck, you have nobody to help you out

You find it hard to organize the material

CASE STUDIES

I am having trouble staying motivated as well. I think it's stress. It takes a lots from you, from your family life; jealousy at work don't help as well. Listen, pass it and get yourself something you always wanted but wasn't ever be able to get it. You know what I mean.
Don't forget, the exam is the only way to get promoted, to get a a raise, and (for some reason) to get respect from other engineers.

I have sat twice for the Civil PE
I am afraid I have not studied enough. I studied a couple of hours a day for the last month. It was depressing because I have prepared twice before using 4 HP48GX calcs programmed to the hilt in my areas of specialty. I set out to make up for my historic weak points this time around but once again did not cover much there. I hope it is an easy test this time. The first one I did back in the fall of 2002 had an easy AM. I blew it in the PM that time attempting Trans. The second attempt in the fall of 2003 had a hard AM and an equally hard ENV PM. Scored the same both times. 59.

I plan to take the civil/structural again in Oct. I studied the CERM and the NCEES Sample Questions-Civil, also took a university review course. Any suggestions on how/what to study, review materials or test taking methods?

I've struggled w/ deciding to go back for a PE, but I too would have to take the FE first. I've tried reviewing, but after being out of school for over 10 years myself, it seems that I've forgotten everything that I would have known off the top of my head right after I graduated. I should have taken the FE then, but didn't. With a full-time job and two small boys, the amount of time to pass the FE just seemed too insurmountable and would detract from my time w/ my boys while they are small. If you've got the time, I say go for it, but plan on a disciplined study schedule just to prepare for the FE, not to mention the PE in the future. You are looking at devoting 5 years of your life or more to obtaining a PE. Right now, the sacrifice just doesn't justify itself when compare to my family. Perhaps in a few years when my boys are older, but not now, as I definitely think it is always a bonus to keep improving yourself and making yourself more marketable.

PROBLEMS WITH PASSING THE EXAMS

You studied hard but you draw blanks on the exams

You run out of time on the exam

You keep failing the exam

Lack of Motivation: A talent is irrelevant if a person is not motivated to use it. Motivation may be external (for example, social approval) or internal (satisfaction from a job well done). External sources tend to be transient, while internal sources tend to produce more consistent performance.

Lack of Impulse Control: Habitual impulsiveness gets in the way of optimal performance. Some people do not bring their full intellectual resources to bear on a problem, but go with the first solution that pops into their heads.

Lack of perseverance and too much perseveration: Some people give up too easily, while others are unable to stop even when the quest will be fruitless.

Using the wrong abilities: People may not be using the right abilities for the tasks in which they are engaged.

Inability to translate thought into action: Some people seem buried in thought. They have good ideas but rarely seem able to do anything about them.

Lack of product orientation: some people seem more concerned about the process rather than the result of the activity

Inability to complete tasks: For some people nothing ever draws to a close. Perhaps it's a fear of what they would do next or fear of becoming hopelessly enmeshed in detail.

Failure to initiate: Still others are unwilling or unable to initiate a project. It may be indecision or fear of commitment.

Fear of failure: People may not reach their intellectual performance because they avoid the really important challenges in life.

Procrastination: Some people are unable to act without pressure. They may also look for little things to do in order to put off the big ones.

Misattribution of blame: Some people always blame themselves for even the slightest mishap. Some always blame others

Excessive self pity: Some people spend more time feeling sorry for themselves than expending the effort necessary to overcome the problem

Excessive dependency: Some people expect others to do for them what they ought to be doing for themselves

Wallowing in personal difficulties. Some people let their personal difficulties interfere grossly with their work. During the course of life, one can expect some real joys and some real sorrows. Maintaining a proper perspective is difficult

Distractibility and lack of concentration: Even some intelligent people have very short attention spans

Spreading oneself too thin or too thick. Undertaking too many activities may result in none being completed on time. Undertaking too few can also result in missed opportunities and reduced levels of accomplishment

Inability to delay gratification: Some people reward themselves and are rewarded by others for finishing small tasks, while avoiding bigger tasks that would earn them larger rewards

Inability to see the forest through the trees: some people become obsessed with details and are either unwilling or unable to see or deal with the larger picture in the projects they undertake.

Lack of balance between critical analytic thinking and creative synthetic thinking. It is important for people to learn what kind of thinking is expected of them in each situation

Too little or too much self-confidence. Lack of self confidence can gnaw away at a persons; ability to get things done and may become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Conversely, individuals with too much self-confidence may not know when to admit they are wrong or in need of self improvement.

CASE STUDIES

That depends on a lot of factors such as which exam you are taking and knowing, and being honest about, your capabilities entering exam preparation. Passing this exam is going to require not only recognizing what formulas are needed to calculate something, but understanding the concepts behind the formulas. It's going to require knowing where charts, tables, etc. are in the various codes so that time is not wasted searching for them during the exam. Then there's the large variation in passing rates for the various disciplines. The majority of the disciplines have a 50 to 60% national passing rate. The lowest passing rate is consistently for the Strucutral PE Exam which has between 30% and 45% national passing rate.
I was a "B" Civil Engineering student that went into Structural Engineering upon graduation. My job requires getting many designs engineered and sold as quickly as possible and spreadsheets for beams, columns, concrete bearing, retaining wall design, etc. are used meaning I don't really get the kind of practice on the job to keep me fresh on the kinds of problems you typically see on the PE Exam. I took the exam for the first time last fall and studied everyday for two to three hours for 3 months. I entered the Structural PE Exam feeling prepared and confident only to fail with a grade in the 60's (70 is a passing score). My exam experience taught me that there were some concepts that I ignored while studying only to find these concepts being tested on the exam. Anything is possible so you can not study too much and anything on the NCEES' topic list is fair game.
I emphasize that I am speaking from my experiences, and the experiences of colleagues and friends, preparing for and taking the strucutral PE exam. We all felt there simply was not enough time to answer 80 questions on the exam prepared or not prepared. I've heard test takers in other disciplines claim to have had time to finish the entire test and check their answers so I stress you might want to get opinions from test takers in your discipline. Good luck!!!

I have taken the FE exam twice and failed. Right now I am so sad and depressed. I made a 69 on my first attempt, while taking 14 credit hours in school and working 30+ hours per week. The funny thing is that I did studied and still failed. The second attempt, I ended up with a 67, which is worst that the first attempt, even though I studied about the same amount of time. How far away from passing am I, please advised. Is the 69 score means approximatey one question or is it more? Now I have graduated and I think this is my last change to take it again, here in Florida, because of the 3-attempt Law from the FBPE. This is why I failed the exam twice, I believed. I Ran out of time , panicked and guessed. I graduated with a 3.1 gpa and can't seems to passed the exam. I am registered to take the exam again in Florida, but if I fail it can I go to another state and take and avoid going back to school. Will Florida accept the out of State EIT?
F.Y.I: The first time I took the exam was in Oct 2004, before Florida cahnged the 5 attempt to 3. Is there a grandfather clause for people who took the exam prior to this amendment?

I should say I actually did worse the 2nd time around. No kidding but there are reasons.
First time around, basically I didn't study enough and didn't study the right things. I wasn't sure what to expect and therefore did not concentrate on the right areas. I spent too much time studying for the morning session (which I did well on) and not enough time studying on the afternoon session.
The 2nd time around I really should have taken a year off and not gone for the next exam. That was my major problem. My company was sold right before I got the results of last falls exam and I lost my job. So I spent the time I should have spent studying working on resumes, interviewing, traveling, and moving. I also got sick right before the exam with a pretty serious problem. Add all this together with the anxiety of taking the exam again and I suffered a panic attack before the exam. It took me 30 minutes at the start of both the morning and the afternoon exams to calm down enough to take the exam and my pulse rate was over 120 due to the medical problems I was dealing with prior to the exam.
One other problem I had the 2nd time around was in my haste to get to the airport I forgot to pack a couple code books. I did not have any design code (UBC/IBC/ASCE) so I forfeited several problems I could have done if I'd have had a code with me.
I have not decided if I am going to go for the exam this October or wait until April this time around. A lot depends on if I have to have surgery or not this fall. I will know that by the end of June. The good news is I should not have to move again any time soon and can finally relax, take a review course and be able to dedicate time to study.

Repeat test takers have a lower pass rate because they usually don’t change the way they studied from the first time the failed. So therefore, if you did not study properly the first time, and failed. The second time, you study the same way; the out come is the same, failure!

I took PE mechanical in Texas and failed with a score of 69. I took HVAC afternoon.Sad thing is HVAC is what I do for living and I think I am very good at it.But the type of questions were such that You would guess them right if you have a very good luck.

I don't know how to study for the next P.E. exam in chemical engineering. I failed the P.E. exam 5 times. I got a 68 on the last test. I miss passing by two points. I tried everything. I took a refresher, bought course notes in S.F and MGI. I even study on my own for 40 hours a week for 3 months.

PROBLEMS WITH EXAM RULES

You only have one more chance to take the exam

I hate to admit this but I just failed my third straight Colorado Mechanical PE exam. I scored 69 on both the first two exams, the third just says FAIL.
I guess I need some help.

Along with my letter that I failed was a letter stating that FL changed the law from 5 attempts to 3 before they make you take 12 college credits.
Of course that was my third attempt. I would hope that would not affect those that have already made attempts.
They can't change the rules in the middle of the game